Duck loads?

Gilgo · #1 11-07-2009, 05:22 AM

Has anyone heard the bottom line on Black Cloud ammo? By the end of last season, I was hearing rumors that the "flange" rim around the pellets was scratching the inside of gun barrels? Any truth to that? Also, what's a good strong 2 3/4" shell out there now that is going to be sure to eject from my Moss 935 auto that can sometimes be temperamental with smaller loads?

ARduxnbux · #2 11-07-2009, 06:23 AM

If you use a ported choke, either switch to a different shotshell or change to a non-ported choke. Other than that, you should be fine.

Haven't heard anything about the "saturn rings" (as I like to call them) causing scratches in any barrels, but I suppose anything is possible.

As for 2.75" loads, I'd choose a load which is rated above 1500 fps, if possible. I believe Kent makes one, and possibly Winchester in their Drylok lineup.

meatmachineman · #3 11-07-2009, 03:24 PM

I have shot some black cloud as recently as this morning. So far no scratches. Here's my understanding of why... Federal uses their flight control wad in those things. The wad encompasses the shot as it travels down the barrel and incidently helps BC hold titght patterns. I'm not exactly certain at what point the wad seperates from the shot, but as long as the wad is accelerating as the powder is burning, the shot should not have contact with the barrel at all.

meatmachineman · #4 11-07-2009, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Gilgo

Also, what's a good strong 2 3/4" shell out there now that is going to be sure to eject from my Moss 935 auto that can sometimes be temperamental with smaller loads?

If your talkin duck loads, most 2.75 should be able to cycle it. Usually those light field and target loads are the ones people have issues with in their 3.5 autos.

Gilgo · #5 11-07-2009, 04:26 PM

Meat machine--
So do you know of other semi's that are designed for 3.5's that have trouble with 2.75's ? I was worried that it was a unique flaw of the Mossy 935?

meatmachineman · #6 11-07-2009, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Gilgo

Meat machine--
So do you know of other semi's that are designed for 3.5's that have trouble with 2.75's ? I was worried that it was a unique flaw of the Mossy 935?

Ha! Take your pick! Every gun out there has someone who's had problems feeding light loads into a 3.5 gun and another who swears that "it'll eat everything I feed it!" There are a few guns from what I understand that are adjustable to some degree, but I'd rather throw a shell in and pull the trigger. If you're having trouble with yours, don't feel bad, the 935 isn't the only one with issues. I have no experience personally as my only 3.5 is my Rem 870, Both my 12ga autos are 3 inchers, but I have read that if you run a few boxes of shoulder busters through the gun, it can "break it in." But don't take my word for it! I'd hate to recommend you punish yourself like that and not achieve results!

I have read that some people have better results with certain manufacturers' light loads, so some experimenting may be in order. At any rate, good luck with the 935!

Billy Bob · #7 11-15-2009, 06:13 PM

My question would be why someone would go to the expense of purchasing a 3.5" waterfowl shotgun and then want to use 2.75" shells ? ? ?

meatmachineman · #8 11-15-2009, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Billy Bob

My question would be why someone would go to the expense of purchasing a 3.5" waterfowl shotgun and then want to use 2.75" shells ? ? ?

Sometimes a 3.5 goes on sale. For instance, my 870 Super Mag I purchased on sale for a bit less than what a 3" 870 could be gotten for. Another reason is bustin clays. I'd rather spend $5.00 a box on 2.75 Wally specials than blowing coin unnecessarily on 3 or 3.5 shells. Another scenario... usually we hunt spots where long shots are possible, but have also hunted a time or two along a narrow river in a wooded area. A 25-30 yard shots would be the max. I wouldn't have any issue using 2.75s there. I just see the 3.5 guns adding versatility.

Gilgo · #9 11-16-2009, 06:01 PM

There's actually a good reason for the purchase. I wanted the semi auto because I shoot puddlers out of a meadow box that is a bit tight and a my pump was tough in the tight spot. The shooting is close up and I wanted to use 4's or 6's and 2.75's are plenty and cheaper and you are not really going to find the smaller shot in the larger shells. I also wanted to shoot clays with cheaper low brass. But, I also needed the 3.5's for the goose pit for heavy birds and tough shots.

meatmachineman · #10 11-16-2009, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Gilgo

There's actually a good reason for the purchase. I wanted the semi auto because I shoot puddlers out of a meadow box that is a bit tight and a my pump was tough in the tight spot. The shooting is close up and I wanted to use 4's or 6's and 2.75's are plenty and cheaper and you are not really going to find the smaller shot in the larger shells. I also wanted to shoot clays with cheaper low brass. But, I also needed the 3.5's for the goose pit for heavy birds and tough shots.

Are you using standard steel 6? What sort of effective range are getting from them? I bought a box of HeviSteel 6 from going out of business sale for $11. I've had good results with it. Other than that, I've been leaning heavily towards #3 with regular steel.