7mm mag or .270 wsm

[bowhunter]

I've narrowed it down to these two. It will be for deer and elk and be shooting anywhere from 50 to 300 yards. Just wondering what your thoughts were on the two. For the 7mm im thinking the Remington 700 sendero SF II

[d2huffman]

I would go with the 270wsm - it has slightly less recoil and the balistics are very close. My brother shoots the 7mm and there is nothing wrong with it - I just like my 270wsm better. You can shoot a heavier bullet with the 7mm, but if you are really into using heavier bullet then it would be best to go 300wm or wsm.

[gdbraham]

I'd say it would be a crap shoot as to which one to pick. Both are fantastic calibres that are very well suited for deer hunting at the ranges you mentioned. If I had to make an opinion on the topic, I personally would say that the 270 WSM might have a slight edge in accuracy, but as mentioned, the
7mm can shoot a little heavier bullet. Either way, you have narrowed it down to 2 excellent calibres and you will be happy with whichever one you pick.

[Riverbottom]

I own and hunt with both rounds. Both are a fantastic choice and you really can't go wrong with either selection. Its a crap shoot on which one I use from year to year. I actually tend to use the .7mm a bit more just because that gun has been used and abused (not really) more and has more scares and I don't worry about dragging it in thick brush and sticker bushes. The .270WSM is a lighter gun, short action and I really do love it too. I think it will depend on the weight issue for you and if you want a short action compact package or the full length action of the 7. Depends on what type of hunting you will be doing - sitting or stalking/drives etc.... both are very, very good, flat shooting and plenty of knock-down power for most everything giving a slight edge to the .270WSM on foot pounds on energy.

[700xcr]

I have to agree with the rest who replied. It comes down to weight and gun length. I had a Ruger M77 in 7mm mag. and now have a Remington 700xcr in 270wsm.

[bowhunter]

Thank-you for the replys so far. The type of hunting that I do is sitting on stand 90% of the time. The rest is watching clear cuts from the edges in ground blinds. What is the recoil like on both of them? I'm used to shooting a .270win with 150grain bullets and a .30-06 with 180 grain bullets.

[Riverbottom]

Depending on the grain of 30-06 you are use to shooting the recoil will be very slightly more but not much to notice. If you shoot the 180 grain and up rounds from your 30-06 the 7mm and .270 wsm will be about the same. The .270WSM has a bit of a sharper kick but but not enough to really speak of. You will be fine!!

[gdbraham]

If you shoot a 30-06 with 180 grain bullet, that rifle will probably have more recoil then either the 7mm or 270 WSM. You have to take into account the type of stock you plan on getting though. A light synthetic stock will obviously produce more recoil than a heavier wood stock.

[700xcr]

The Remington 700 Sendero II I believe is a 8.5# gun bear bones. So more weight you are going to have less recoil. My Remington 700xcr in 270wsm is a 7-3/8 # gun. It also comes factory with the R3 (Limbsaver) recoil pad. With weight of scope and ammo in the gun recoil is minable. I had rotator cuff surgery two years ago so I am recoil sensiable to the shoulder.

[Nr1 Qualifier]

Thank-you for the replys so far. The type of hunting that I do is sitting on stand 90% of the time. The rest is watching clear cuts from the edges in ground blinds. What is the recoil like on both of them? I'm used to shooting a .270win with 150grain bullets and a .30-06 with 180 grain bullets.

Believe me, when you take a shot at your game, you won't even remember the recoil. However,
if it's an issue for sighting in etc, there are plenty of good shooting rests out there that will
lessen felt recoil when you're on the Range.

[Shortmagman]

I have rifles in both calibers and I have shot deer with both guns. You can shoot heavier bullets in the 7mm Rem Mag than you can with the 270 WSM as has been mentioned but for 99 % of your use that will not make a great deal of difference.

I would let the gun dictate the caliber. You can not get as many different guns in 270 WSM as you can in 7mm Rem Mag. . Find the gun you like best and let that tell you which caliber to choose because there is not that much difference between the two.

[Shortmagman]

I have rifles in both calibers and I have shot deer with both guns. You can shoot heavier bullets in the 7mm Rem Mag than you can with the 270 WSM as has been mentioned but for 99 % of your use that will not make a great deal of difference.

I would let the gun dictate the caliber. You can not get as many different guns in 270 WSM as you can in 7mm Rem Mag. . Find the gun you like best and let that tell you which caliber to choose because there is not that much difference between the two.

I also have a 7mm SAUM and between the three there is little differnce in the speed of a 140 Grain bullet. I took that you were asking about the difference between and 7mm Rem Mag and a 270 WSM. Of course there are more than one 7mm mag. 7mm SAUM 7mm WSM are also 7mm Mags.

[lanman89]

Bowhunter

I stepped up from a winchester model 70 (walnut stock), .270 win this year shooting mostly 130 grains to a very light Tikka T3 in 7RM shooting 140's. The change in recoil for me was significant. I think primarily due to giving up somewhere around two pounds in the weight of the weapon, and adding approx. 5 pounds of additional recoil.

I shot a friends rem 710, 7RM prior to my purchase, and did not notice any significant change in recoil over my .270win

Per the recoil tables, the 270wsm and the 7RM are very close in recoil. about 1lb more for the 7RM. The ballistics between the two are almost identical. Like Shortmagman said, let the gun dictate the caliber.

If you purchase a LIGHTER gun than your .270 you will notice the additional recoil. I added a limbsaver pad and that helped a lot.

[dubyam]

From a pragmatic standpoint, you're not going to notice in the field, nor are the deer, which one you're using. I like the short mags, but then I also like the long mags. If the rifle you like is available in both, I'd probably go with the 7mmRemMag just because ammo is available more places than the 270WSM, and sometimes a tad cheaper, too. If you handload, the difference is going to be non-existent. As for recoil, in the same gun, the two are going to be right in line with each other, and with that 180gr -06 load you're used to. Neither is going to be terrible, but both are going to get your attention if you don't shoulder the gun well when you shoot.

[d2huffman]

I shot a M77 with syn stock in 30-06 before getting my T3 270wsm - not much difference in weight. I typically shot handload 165gr in 06 that were pretty much maxed out. The 270wsm has a sharper recoil that is slightly greater than 06 - both with Sims Limbsaver. My brother's remington 700 7mm that weights 3lbs more definitly kicks more - 160gr. Because of the powder burning effiencey of the sm, you get more energy out of slightly less powder. I shoot 150gr for elk in my 270wsm. A little less recoil with 130gr that I have shot at range and deer. I think you will see the same if you look at recoil calcs.

[bowhunter]

Thanks again for all of the great replys. By the sounds of it with both caliburs being so close I think I willl more than likley go with the 7mm remington magnum. Like I mentioned before the rifle I was really interested in was the Remington 700 Sendero SF II. Now I would like to know what some of your thoughts are on this rifle if you have had any experience with it. Thank-you.

[Dead_Beat]

i would have to agree with duby walmart has a ton a 7 RM ammo


DB

[Rattle em up]

Thank-you for the replys so far. The type of hunting that I do is sitting on stand 90% of the time. The rest is watching clear cuts from the edges in ground blinds. What is the recoil like on both of them? I'm used to shooting a .270win with 150grain bullets and a .30-06 with 180 grain bullets.


I just took a look at the rifle tables for you. here it is.

150grns. 308 15.8 lbs. of recoil


150 grns. Spfd 3006 17.6 lbs.


150 grns. 270WSM 18.9 lbs.


150 grns. 7mm mag 19.2 lbs.


500 grns. 460 Wby mag 99.6 lbs. just thought I would throw that one in.

[Lodiman]

How much felt recoil does the 577 Tyrannasoar have?

[BigBoreDan]

How much felt recoil does the 577 Tyrannasoar have?

That would be 172ft.lbs in a 13 lb. rifle...LOL!!!

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[rem 700]

7mm has more and better bullets suited for elk than the 6.8s.

[beretzs]

I have a M70 with the Laminated Stock and a 3.5x10 Vari III in 270WSM. I also have a M70 with a synthetic stock in 7mm Rem Mag. They are both awesome rifles. I like the the 270WSM for its very flat trajectory. But really, both of them are same. If I was going to hunt mostly deer, I would opt for the 270. It is a very efficient cartridge for deer and in a rifle like the Sendero would be dynamite for a long way out there. Like all the rest have said, you have two great picks. You can get 7mm Rem Mag ammo pretty cheap from most places though. Scotty

[wdebo]

I have a Sendero SF-II in a 7mm mag I like it very well. If you dont live to far from me you can come shoot the gun if you would like, Also I have a rifle range so you can practice all you want.

[beretzs]

I bet that Sendero in 7mm Rem Mag is an awesome long range shooter. Scotty