bore butter ?

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ive read in diffrent places that alot of hunters wont use it but ive talked to alot of people that do.since i just bought my first muzzleloader i would like to know what everyone else thinks.

[biliff]

Depends on what your shooting and what your using it for. I use it as a patch lube for my flintlocks with real BP. Works O.K. for that. I do not use it as a bore lube, preferring Ballistol for that use.
Not sure how it would work if you're shooting the modern guns with the modern powders. Sometimes there are compatability issues with lubes and powders.

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i geuss i should clarify i meant just for long storage out or season.

[FishinDave221]

Bore butter is meant to season the bore over the season. It is suppose to allow for better accuracy and prevent the bore from rusting. I have used it after muzzleloading season is done and I have had no problems with my gun. Some peopl use it as a lube for bullets as well, but most muzzleloaders are so advanced today you can just get the bullet down the barrel with just the ramrod.

[Lodiman]

Bore butter works a little as a rust preventative. I have found if I coat the barrle thick with it it will work, otherwise you get rust. I always use real blackpowder and round patched ball and each patch is lubed with borbutter. If I just run a few claening patches through my gun and lightly bore butter the bore I get bright red rust. I know it is supposed to coat the barrel like a cast iron skillet gets coated with grease but for long term storage is does not seem to do the trick. I have went to cleaning the crap out of my rifle with black powder cleaner and if it is put away for long I fill it with crisco. It is messy but I don't have rust probs. The other way which worked good for me is called taking it int he shower or giving it a bath, take the barrel out of the stock and with a lot of real hot soapy water brush and patch the crap out of it forever till the water comes out clear and then dry it out by a heat vent or woodburner so you don't get flash rust and then lightly bore butter it. That works the best actually but takes 3 times as long with 4 times the mess. I have to say I have used 3 different black powder solvents and have never been very pleased withthem. They don't work like H#9 and a smokeless rifle.

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will the cleaning procedure be the same with a stainless barell as with a blued barell?do i need extra stuff?

[rooster52]

I have had my muzzleloaders get some rust in the bore during long storage time when I used to use bore butter. Recently I have been using Full Synthetic light weight motor oil to heavy coat the muzzleloader when being stored for a long time and never have them rust.You have to clean them good before you use them but it is nice not to find any rust.

[Lodiman]

I have used motor oil too and it worked pretty good after a real good cleaning.

[airborne]

I started using motor oil a few years ago. I have several guns and not all of them get used every year. During the season when I am shooting, I use Break Free. I have a gallon left over from when I was in the Army and they banned it.

I have used Bore Butter in my muzzle loaders for storage with poor results. The barrels would always get rusty. I run a dehumidifire and that doesn't help. I clean them very well before storing but I think the acid and sulfure from the powder stays in the metal. Now I oil the whole thing and clean it before the season comes. I have not had a problem since.

I still use it durig the season to coat the barrel inside and out. It wont creep like oil does.

[Pine Buck]

I use the pine-scented BB every time I shoot my MLs. Otherwise, I store them with a heavy lube of rem-oil in the off season. I have used BB ever since I used to shoot my T/C Hawkin .54 Caliber some years ago. I highly recommend it and it's been very good to me over the years.
--Pine Buck

[jpfishmaster]

I use the pre soaked Bore Butter patches between each shot. 1st one gets run down wrapped around a 45 cal brass brush, then follow it with a clean dry patch. Great accuracy.

[airborne]

Who ever invented BB sure has made a bundle. I dont think there is anybody out there that shoots a ML that doesnt know what it is.

[scrat]

i really dont have an off season. Im here in CA. so shooting is a regular session. I use bore butter mostly to lubricate bullets and then for capping bullets in handgun revolvers. My barrels i use a heavy coat of just regular gun oil. My barrels dont go for more than 2-3 weeks with out seeing action. Rust. i have not encountered. I guess the more you use it the less you will have to worry about rust.

[buckconner]

I use a wiping rod (larger diam wooden cleaning rod that's 8-10 inches longer the the regular rod in the gun giving you an easy hand hold). When my guns are in the safe, each sits with it's own wiping rod with the proper cleaning jag and an oiled patch on the jag. Every few weeks I swab the barrels using the wiping rod and oiled patch, this keeps a film of oil in the bores. Every other time checked I put a new oiled patch on the jag of each gun and check old patch for rust, cheap and easy insurance against the problem. This is nothing new I read about this being done by military units at several forts during the Rev. War, it really works.

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Buckconner how long do your guns sit before you shoot them. i almost feel i like i have neglected my barrels. but then they all get shot at least minimum 2 times a month. then just regular gun oil. The day i go to shoot. i run a dry patch through the bore Followed by a patch of alcohal to remove the gun oil. then at the range a light coat of bore butter. Then i fire a primer in my 209s this can help remove anything Then im ready to load up and shoot.

[buckconner]

Buckconner how long do your guns sit before you shoot them. i almost feel i like i have neglected my barrels. but then they all get shot at least minimum 2 times a month. then just regular gun oil. The day i go to shoot. i run a dry patch through the bore Followed by a patch of alcohal to remove the gun oil. then at the range a light coat of bore butter. Then i fire a primer in my 209s this can help remove anything Then im ready to load up and shoot.

When I was still on the road working they may not get shot for several months, when I'm in town we shoot every weekend weather premitting. I shoot a combination of original and reproduction flinters and a few percussion guns. I do pretty much the same as you on cleaning after being stored other than using 3F to clear the channel on the flinters or a German percussion cap on those guns.

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Buckconner how long do your guns sit before you shoot them. i almost feel i like i have neglected my barrels. but then they all get shot at least minimum 2 times a month. then just regular gun oil. The day i go to shoot. i run a dry patch through the bore Followed by a patch of alcohal to remove the gun oil. then at the range a light coat of bore butter. Then i fire a primer in my 209s this can help remove anything Then im ready to load up and shoot.

in the manual for my omega it says not to have anything in the barell as far as lubrication. does a little in the barell help with accuracy or just help load easier?

[buckconner]

in the manual for my omega it says not to have anything in the barell as far as lubrication. does a little in the barell help with accuracy or just help load easier?

We have talked to the T/C Rep about this stated in their current manuals, he agreed that he keeps his rifle bore lubed with a light coating of oil in the off seasons. He had he idea who wrote their manuals but would let his upper management know our thoughts?

Buck

[scrat]

Lube it or loose. it. I went shooting today. I tell you what. Bore butter is great stuff. Between two revolvers i shot around 140 rounds. Using bore butter in each. When i got home i spent an hour cleaning 3 guns. They all came out very very good. The bore butter makes clean up so easy.



As for lubrication. I always use the gray antiseize by permatex on nipples and breach plugs. AFter a day of shooting. All the nipples came off the revolvers so so easy. For the barrels. Again lube lube lube. after cleaning and wiping down everything. Every gun and every part gets coated inside and out with PETROLEUM. yep good ole GUN oil. the whole gun. a light coat on the outside and a good coat on the inside. every item every part.

Last night i took 3 guns out of my safe. Took them apart. Then came apart sooo easy. I took a bronze brush with a dry patch wrapped around it. and went down the barrels then i soaked a patch in alchohal. And went down the barrels. Then i used a quick patch of natural lube 2000. Did this with all my guns. Then today at the range i ran a percussion cap through all the revolver barrels and down my 50cal

After that i had a good day of shooting no problems at all. Then i cleaned them all up and lubed the heck out of them again. Then put them in my safe. Oh and i also have about 4 of those moisture gone bags in my gun safe. Not one area at all on any of my guns has regular oxygen on them. they are all coated with oil.

They all look brand new. I just DE oil them before i shoot them.

[tjen]

Have a 4 year old TC Omaga I just run say 6-8 wet and dry patches using #13 solvent, than bore butter than store. No rust yet but I have only used 777 powder and followed TC's cleaning instrutions to the letter, and no rust issues.