What muzzleloader do you shoot?

[DBaker]

1. What muzzleloader do you shoot?
2. What is you bullet/podwer combo?


Knight BigHorn .50

Current working with Hornady Great Plains 385 and 410 grains and Knight Hydra-Con 440 grains

Both with pellets

[Lodiman]

I have a Traditions Pennsylvania Rifle. 33 inch barrel, 1 in 66 twist, 50 cal. It shoots very well. Key is keeping it clean. If you are going to muzzle load you ought toget a feel of what real muzzle loading is about, real blackpowder, lots of smoke, an occasional missed ignition and regular cleaning. Pyrodex pellets and 209 ignition is not muzzle loading, it's just a slow large caliber rifle.

[tddeangelo]

I have a TC Renegade, flint ignition, shorter barrel (I forget the length off-hand). I usually shoot 80gr. of FFFg with either a patched round ball or a saboted Speer 260gr hollowpoint. For some reason, it won't shoot maxi- or minie-balls worth a darn, but sabots work great along with round balls. It's a faster twist than you'd expect for a round ball, but I forget the rate at the moment. Because not all TC does is perfect, I replaced the standard sights with "target" sights....square post and notch instead of that hideous curved notch and bead front sight. Ick. I also put a Lyman frizzen on it. TC's are notoriously soft and spark less reliably than the Lyman's. And I only use German flints, cut with two bevels (can be reversed, which I've had to do in the field). I find the German flints give 4-8 shots with little maintenance where the English flints give two or three on average. There's flint in the area and I've knapped my own. It was neat, but not worth the aggrevation for the one or two good sparks the cruddy flint I had would provide.

I will also occasionally borrow my dad's TC Omega for our early ML season. In that I shoot 90gr of loose triple 7 with the same Speer hollowpoint or a 245gr poly-tipped Traditions bullet.

I agree that folks do better with inlines if they have a flintlock background, as they understand the mechanics of the whole deal better.

[HAIKU_RODNEY]

Tennessee Mountain Rifle, 50 cal., flintlock. 495 round ball with .010 patch. 120 gr. ffg black powder.

[buckgitter]

Thompson Center Encore Pro Hunter 150gr 777pellets and 250 gr shockwave bullet. 50 cal

Also CVA Kodiak Magnum 100 gr 777 pellets 250 shockwave ......50 cal

[Kellyelk]

.50 cal CVA Wolf Magnum with 100 grains of Pyrodex behind a 295 grain Powerbelt Hollow point. Good elk medicine in the timber.

[rooster52]

T/C Renegade 54 cal. Round ball/100 gr.Pioneer Powder FFF
Knight LK93 50 cal 295 or 348 Powerbelt 110 grains of 777 Set up with peep sight for elk hunting in Colorado
Knight MK85 50 cal 295 or 348 Powerbelt 110 grains 777, Bushnell Trophy scope
NEF 50 cal. 348 Powerbelt 110 grains 777 , Bushnell Trophy scope

[citori]

I have a 54 cal T/C Renegade that I use a home cast Maxi-Ball style conical bullet with 80 grs of Goex or Elephant FFG black powder and a ground up build of a Pennsylvania style flintlock with a 54 cal 32" barrel that was given to me by my uncle. I shoot the same loads in this gun that I use in the T/C. I don't know where he got the gun but it is a beautiful (but heavy) looking piece of art and I am almost afraid to take it into the woods.

[biliff]

Either a .54 Isaac Haines style custom flintlock or an Edward Marshall pattern custom flintlock in .58.

Both are rifled for PRB. Target and woods walk loads are 60 and 65 grains FFFg and hunting loads get into the 90 and 100 grain range with FFg

[jcat]

I have a Traditions Pennsylvania Rifle. 33 inch barrel, 1 in 66 twist, 50 cal. It shoots very well. Key is keeping it clean. If you are going to muzzle load you ought toget a feel of what real muzzle loading is about, real blackpowder, lots of smoke, an occasional missed ignition and regular cleaning. Pyrodex pellets and 209 ignition is not muzzle loading, it's just a slow large caliber rifle.

Except for the fact that you load it from the muzzle-hence they call it a muzzleloader. Every thing we have in the world has advancements; Like computers, cars, rifles, reloads, bows, muzzleloaders, etc etc. etc etc, everything will advance in technology. Perhaps you origins or way of life does not, but these are still loaded in the muzzle, and are not rifles.

Jason

[citori]

I'd say that any muzzle loading firearm using a 209 priming system is indeed a rifle as I have yet to see one that is a smoothbore. There may be but as long as there are grooves (most frequently spiraled) cut into the barrel and it fires a projectile, it is a rifle by definition. Of track, but the use of rifled barrels on shotguns required an exemption to be legal in most, if not all states, that do not allow the use of rifles in at least some areas.

[jcat]

I'd say that any muzzle loading firearm using a 209 priming system is indeed a rifle as I have yet to see one that is a smoothbore. There may be but as long as there are grooves (most frequently spiraled) cut into the barrel and it fires a projectile, it is a rifle by definition. Of track, but the use of rifled barrels on shotguns required an exemption to be legal in most, if not all states, that do not allow the use of rifles in at least some areas.

Yes it is a rifled muzzleloader. What about the ones that are not 209 ignitioned that are rifled? Still rifles right? A firearm that is loaded from the muzzle is defined as a muzzleloader, so I will agree that it is a rifled muzzleloader.

[citori]

That the barrel has rifling is what makes it a rifle, whether it is loaded from the breech, muzzle, or side, if it uses a self contained cartridge or not and the type of iginition only further defines what type of rifle it is. If the barrel does not have any type of rifling, it can not by definition be a rifle regardless of any other factors.

[buckgitter]

I have a Traditions Pennsylvania Rifle. 33 inch barrel, 1 in 66 twist, 50 cal. It shoots very well. Key is keeping it clean. If you are going to muzzle load you ought toget a feel of what real muzzle loading is about, real blackpowder, lots of smoke, an occasional missed ignition and regular cleaning. Pyrodex pellets and 209 ignition is not muzzle loading, it's just a slow large caliber rifle.

Been there done that with "real black powder" Nothing against it this just how I choose to hunt! TC Encore Pro Hunter Style.

[buckgitter]

That the barrel has rifling is what makes it a rifle, whether it is loaded from the breech, muzzle, or side, if it uses a self contained cartridge or not and the type of iginition only further defines what type of rifle it is. If the barrel does not have any type of rifling, it can not by definition be a rifle regardless of any other factors.

So you hunt with a smoothbore shotgun muzzle loader?

[.358 MAN]

1. CVA Hunter MAG. .45 cal bolt action. 100 gr. American Pioneer (clean) with 195 gr. Powerbelt bullets for whitetail deer. Only use hollow points on deer if your using Powerbelts. Areotips do not expand.

2 CVA Kodiak pro mag .50 cal triggerbreak with a scope. 100-150 gr. Tripleseven (dirty) with 300gr. Powerbelt Platinum bullets. For the bigger critters.

[Olympus]

TC Encore Pro Hunter with the Realtree HD stock. Shoot 100 grams of Pyrodex pellets behind 200 grain Shockwaves or Hornady SSTs. Found that the there is very little difference between the two out of my gun.

My gun won't shoot Powerbelts for anything though.

[citori]

So you hunt with a smoothbore shotgun muzzle loader?

I have two muzzle loading shotguns I occasionally hunt with and one 62 cal smooth bore musket that is a wall hanger. The difference between the two is the sighting system used, the shotguns have a single bead on the end of the muzzle and the 62 cal musket uses a crude front post and V-notch rear sight arrangement. Many people would and do refer to smooth bore muskets as "rifles" though that would be as correct as referring to the M-16 battle rifle as a machine gun. As its been over 150 years since the U.S. military adopted a rifled firearm to replace smooth bore muskets as its main battle implement, it is understandable how the word "rifle" has come to be (mis)interpreted by the public as most shoulder fired long arms that fire a single projectile.

[82 abn vet]

I shoot a lot of different muzzleloaders.
But the two favorite ones would be my 62 cal. smoothbore,

And my 45 cal. Jacob Dickert longrifle.

The smoothbore likes 90 grain 3f goex, .610 round ball,.010 patch.
The Dickert likes 75 grain 3f goex,440 round ball with .010 patch.

[Yooper]

Austin & Halleck inline with 4x Nikon shooting 295-grain Hornady bullets with 150 grains of APP

CVA Eclipse inline shooting 300-grain Deerslayers with 100 grains of pellets

Newest addition CVA Wolf Mag. Shooting 295-grain Powerbelts with 120-grains of APP

[turkeyhuntr]

I have three muzzle loaders...
1. Lyman Deer Stalker for flint lock season in Pa. patched round ball with 70grs. of FFG. black powder.
2. Knight Disc Elite. 250gr. SST Hornady with 110grs. Pryodex
3. Knight Disc Extreme. 295 Power BELT with 120grs. Pryodex
I bought my first inline just to play with I liked it so much I went out and bought another one. I now find that I like to shoot them more than my center fires.

[airborne]

I use a TC Hawkens 50 cal. flintlock. I only shoot .490round ball with .010 patch. I use 2f in the barrel and 4f in the pan.

I also have another one that only has the letter ( I ) on it. I bought it at an auction for $60. I stripped the barrel and reblued it. I put in a new touch hole and it shoots great. I loan it out to new hunters who are thinking about trying the sport.


Guys, comparing inlines, cap and ball, and flintlocks is like comparing the longbow, recurve, or compound. They are what they are, Muzzle Loaders and Bows. You shoot what you like. It doesn't mean your choice is better or worse.

I prefer the Flintlock, with patch and ball, and good ole blackpowder. I also like my compound bow.

I am glad PA only allows FlintLock during regular muzzle loader season just for the tradition of it. I wouldn't feel the same way if it was longbow only during archery season. I guess I am one of the lucky ones.

[pre6422hornet]

T/C pro hunter stainless composite. 125 grains American Pioneer Powder FFg under a 200gr T/C shockwave. I have used this combo to take two nice 2.5 year old 8pts here in Ohio in 2005 and 2006. Both were double lunged and ran approximately 30 yards before expiring. I recovered the second one from last year under the hide after it broke the off shoulder and came to rest under the skin.
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f95/hoagp/Shockwave002.jpg

In 2005 the load was the same but the gun was a T/C Omega stainless laminate.

[Pine Buck]

1. What muzzleloader do you shoot?
2. What is you bullet/podwer combo?


I hope to get my first muzzleloader this christmas; Knight BigHorn or T/C Black Diamond.

1. T/C Encore "Katahdin" .50 Caliber.
2. 100 grains of Pyrodex and a 300-grain PR spitzer (blue tip).

I have yet to loose a deer that I have hit with these bullets. I have also used Cabelas Dead Center in 300 and 348 grains. Both with equally devastating results. Over 20 deer harvested with this muzzleloader and those bullet combos.

Also, just picked up a ProHunter "Katahdin" today. It's still in the plastic and box, but will post results when I have time to put it to use :)

Pine Buck

[ribbedturtleneck]

T/C Omega, with 2 50 grain pellets of 777 powder and a 300 grain Shockwave.

[buckconner]

Man, can you open a can of worms when you ask such a question with today's varitity of weapons available. I have sold muzzle loading arms and been involved with then longer than most you guys have been on the ground. I'm here to tell you that every year there are more folks coming up with new ideas on what is the perfect muzzle loader, bottom line seems to be is "how big is your budget".

I have shot smoothbore flinters for the last 25 years in muzzleloading season and high power seasons in Colorado, Utah, Wyoming and a few eastern states as time allows. Before that it was Green River Hawkin percussion guns in a number sizes. Heck they are all fun to shoot, you just need to know what your gun and you are capable of.

* (2) reproduction .60 cal. smoothbore flinters - 80 grains FFFG, 600 rd ball, .015 lubed linen patch, prime with FFFG (save carring two horns).
I SHOOT FFFG IN THESE TWO SMOOTHBORES & CAN GET AWAY WITH IT BECAUSE OF BARREL WALL THICKNESS AND BREECH PLUG DESIGN, OTHERWISE I WOULD USE FFG.
* (2) side by side double flinters, one original 12 ga the other a reproduction 20 ga. - FFG charge because of age of original, varies on chg with what we are doing.
* (1) original .40 cal. flint poor boy - 45 grains FFFG, 395 rd ball, .015 lubed linen patch, prime with FFFG.
* (6) original percussion rifles and shotguns - varies on which one, but still shoot FFFG.
* several pistols and revolvers - reproduction and originals. - FFG charges because of age of originals, varies on chg with what we are doing.
* NOTE: IT IS NOT RECOMMENDED SHOOTING "FFFG" IN ANYTHING LARGER THAN A .50 CALIBER MUZZLE LOADER PER MANFACTURERS

Have done a little testing with a Remington 700 ML but never hunted with it other than off a bench shooting at paper. Couldn't bring myself down to using a modern looking gun for hunting, sorry.

See test results under: "new to muzzleloading"

[tc shooter]

I think that in line muzzleloders take a lot of sport of the hunt. I have more enjoyment by taking a deer with a hawken than I would with a inline.

[scrat]

Inline CVA Buckhorn 50cal muzzleloader

Handguns

1851 Confederate 36 cal

1860 Army 44 cal

Handguns are so much fun to shoot.

[DGS]

CVA Optima Pro 50 cal. I use 100 grs pyrodex powder with a 245 gr Power Built Bullet.

[AK in PA]

Pedersoli Pennsylvania flintlock rifle. .45 cal, 55 grns fffg, .440 round ball, .015 patch.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v81/AKinPA/ce78bc7e.jpg

[buckconner]

Pedersoli Pennsylvania flintlock rifle. .45 cal, 55 grns fffg, .440 round ball, .015 patch.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v81/AKinPA/ce78bc7e.jpg

"Holy Crap" AK in PA, you shot a Bambi. Only kidding, I know those deer are small in PA, I was born and raise near Valley Forge, PA and spent most of my off time as a kid near Penn State on the family farm. When I came home from East Asia in the early '60s had a job as an animal control hunter in Chester County. Main job was putting down white tails that where eating up the crops on local farms, lots of shooting with a pre '64 Win. Mod 70 in .264 Win Mag. I did have muzzle loaders but my employer didn't think they where good enough for the job. !@#$%^

Buck

[OhioDeerHunter]

I shoot a TC Omega .50 with a synthetic camo stock with the thumbhole grip. Very very fun gun to shoot.

[justonemike]

New England Huntsman .50 Cal W/100 Grains Of Triple K And A Powerbelt 295 Grain Polymer Tipped Round.....

[Hammerspur]

I've owned several, still have a couple old-timey replicas and inlines. These are two, a.58 cal H&R Huntsman w/stock reworking and my H&R .45 Shikari muzleloader conversion (By Ben Hubbard) which started out looking like the muzzleloading H&R's of that era and is my present favorite:
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k179/hammerspur/StevesHuntsmanShikari-1.jpg

100grs. Black Mag3 PRB
140grs. Black Mag3, 370gr, .40 cal. semi boattail tapered ogive, narrow flat point from custom Sching's adjustable mold, tan sabot

[Nimrodder]

1.White S91 .504 Leuopld 1.5-6X42, 496gr NEW conical 70gr swiss 3f
2.White S91 .451 Ziess 3-9X40, 465gr Bullshop conical, 70gr swiss 3f
3.White Lightning .504 Bushnell 3200 2-7X32, 496gr NEW conical, 75gr swiss3f
4.Knight Mk-85 iron sights, 460 NE conical, 70gr swiss 3f
5.Knight Wolverine 209 Nikon 2-7X32, 460 NE conical, 65gr Goex Express 3f
6.GMRB .54/120 No scope or load as of now
7.TC Firehawk .58 Leuopold 1-4X20, 560 TC Maxi, 90gr Goex2f
8. Lyman GPR Hunter .50 Lyman peep, 460/503 Bullshop conical, 80gr Goex2f
9. Lyman GPR Flintlock .54 90gr Goex 2f, .530 Hornady RB

[Chevyaholics]

I shoot a Thompson Center Omega 50 cal., 100 gr. of powder & 44 Mag Winchester handgun rounds for practice. For hunting 100 gr. of powder with 250 grain powerbelts.

[big d]

i shoot a thompson center 50 caliber triumph with the weather shield and camo stock with powerbelt platinums and 100 grains of triple seven

[wvmtman]

50 cal t/c omega X7

100 gr. FF black powder. I like the smoke & sulfur smell.

50 cal T/C maxi ball lubed with SPG bullet lube

or

Hornady 250 gr sst sabots

[DinkKiller]

50 cal CVA Optima Pro magnum, 100 grs 3f Triple 7 with a 245 gr powerbelt

50 cal TC Omega Stainless, 90 grs 3f APP with a 345 powerbelt aerotip

54 cal Remington 700mls, 105 grs Pyrodex Select with a 365 gr maxiball

58 Cal TC System 1 Firehawk, 105 grs of 2f Pyrodex Select and a 555 gr maxiball

[buckfever]

Traditions .54 hawken percussion cap, patched round ball, 90 grains american pioneer powder

[mainedeersniper]

I got a .50 cal Traditions Buck Pro Hunter In line. I shoot a 295 grain powerbelt hollow point with about 125grains of prydrex power. The gun only cost me $90 un-used. Never had to fix it up or anything. Got it brandnew at a gun shop for $90, and it shoots GREAT!

[coltchris]

50 cal. Knight Disc Extreme, Camo, S/S with (3) 777 pellets & 250 gr. Shockwave, Barnes Red Hot, or Ultimate Slams. All shoot about 1.5" at 100 yds.

[plentywood]

TC Hawken, .54 cal, pyrodex, patched round balls or maxi's

[chessieohio]

T C camo Triumph w/ 2 triple 7 magnum pellets & 250 grain shock wave & Remington kleanbore primers.Havent had good luck with the Tc fusion primers.Theyre dirtier & I had some duds!I have a leupold 3x9 on my gun.Shoots a tight 2" group at 100 yds.Thats good for me anyway!

[DblLung]

I have a Windriver magnum made in Spain. I cant remember the maker. I got it at cabelas on a internet only buy. $99.00 WITH the starter kit. I now shoot Hornady 240gr XTP sabots after TC shockwaves failed to wave or shock on 2 deer. They may have performed better with 150 gr charge but the 100gr pyrodex pellets is comfortable to shoot. Fairly accurate gun for what I paid for it 2-2 1/2 in groups at 100yds. I wont shoot past 125. I does a number on rabbits also. This was 2006 deer the last shockwave bullets I'll ever use. 2 shots to the ribs and 1 to the neck. 45 cal holes in and out. http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii274/drbigfish1/06muzzledeer2.jpg

[blkdia]

I have a Windriver magnum made in Spain. I cant remember the maker. I got it at cabelas on a internet only buy. $99.00 WITH the starter kit. I now shoot Hornady 240gr XTP sabots after TC shockwaves failed to wave or shock on 2 deer. They may have performed better with 150 gr charge but the 100gr pyrodex pellets is comfortable to shoot. Fairly accurate gun for what I paid for it 2-2 1/2 in groups at 100yds. I wont shoot past 125. I does a number on rabbits also. This was 2006 deer the last shockwave bullets I'll ever use. 2 shots to the ribs and 1 to the neck. 45 cal holes in and out. http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii274/drbigfish1/06muzzledeer2.jpg

Nice deer, Hi DblLung,
Wow, that's wierd about the Shockwaves, I've used them exclusively for years (used to use XTP) Every thing I've hit with them were smashed, tremendous expansion. I do shoot 150 gr. triple 7 though. I have a friend that shoots 100 gr. 777 and 250 gr SW's (I shoot 300 gr SW) and he has never had a deer go more than a few steps. I wonder if you got a bad lot? lol

Denny

[bigern]

i shoot a tc black diamond xr. its accurate and easy to clean, and it has all three nipples that you can choose from. ive shot two antelope and a mule deer with it. it did a fine job.

[Nr1 Qualifier]

I've had a number of M/L's in my time from the T/C Hawken in .45 and .50 Cal,
plus other 50's in a Knight Disc, T/C Thunderhawk, Encore and an Omega. I'm now
about to try a Savage 10ML-II stainless with smokeless powder and the Accu-trigger.
It's being done more out of curiosity then anything. I've read a lot about the Savage
everywhere except on this Forum and, in general, the critiques seem to be positive. I
know a lot of people think its a novelty but smokeless M/L'ing will be around for some
time and I'd like to give it a fair evaluation. There is no doubt that Manufactures like
T/C, Knight, CVA etc are looking hard at smokeless and the reason they don't have
one on the market just yet is Savage got the Patent first. I'll let you know what I think
of the 10ML-II in a month or so.

[pittsburgh longhuntr]

jack garner custom flinter 45. cal

[scaryfordman]

I am new to muzzleloaders, but I recently bought a NEF Huntsman .50 cal rifle. It has a 3-9 40 mm Optronics scope. I got it on gunbroker.com for $200. I started with 100 gr American Pioneer with 245 gr powerbelts. Need more practice.

[rooster52]

I have an NEF 50 cal. and I have good accuracy with 295 and 348 powerbelts and 100 grains of Triple 7.My rifle would not shoot the 245 powerbelts worth a darn.
the NEF is a great rifle for the money,I own one and just bought my brother one on GUNBROKER.I sure like the primer holder they use,alot easier than my Knight with there disc.
On a good day I am getting arround a 2-3 inch group from my rifle,good enough that it has taken several whitetails.

[sixbull]

I shoot a 45 cal. flintlock fullstock, 48" barrel, made by Ron Lang in the style of Caleb Vincent, a Cabela's Blue Ridge percussion .50 cal, a 1858 New Army Police .36 cal, a Ruger Old Army, a Beretta O/U shotgun, soon a Lyman Great Plains Percussion .50 cal and a Perdersoli Rocky Mountain Hawken .50 cal.

[greenshovel]

TC Pro Hunter .50. With Mike Belm Triger spring conversion and 1X Hingepin upgrade.

Getting ready to add a Stratton Hanger Bar, next. (o:

[scopey58]

TC Renegade percussion 54cal left hand 110gr pyrodex w/homecast maxi-bullets 430gr. Puts a hole in em you can see daylight through. Good to 150yds.

50cal black diamond.

TC Encore Pro Hunter. Shoots 3 777 pellets and 250gr shockwave very well. Leupold VXII 3-9 lrd. Am going to try one of these on New Mexico elk in three weeks.

[greenshovel]

TC Encore Pro Hunter. Shoots 3 777 pellets and 250gr shockwave very well. Leupold VXII 3-9 lrd. Am going to try one of these on New Mexico elk in three weeks.

Scopey Mine likes this combo very much (o:

[12Bravo20Bravo4]

I have a 50 cal Austin and Halleck with a 3-9 Nikon on it. I shoot traditions T shock bullets and 2 pellets of Jim Shockeys Gold with triple seven 209 primers. Inch and half groups at 80 yards if I do every thing right.

[HEAVY D]

Knight LK 93 with 209 conversion 22" ss barrel black thumbhole stock shoots really good with 90 gr triple 7 295gr powerbelt hp and triple 7 primers

[tsmith.300wsm]

knight .50 cal wolverine triple 7 powder100gr /245grain sabots/leupold vx2

[buck hunter]

i shoot a cva hawken caplock with 120 gr of pyrodex powder and 290 grain sabots or tradinal round balls with patch good for 150 yards and remington #11 precussion caps

[HoneyHole]

Knight Disc Extreme with 300 grain Barnes MZ, 100 grain American Pioneer Powder, Remington Kleenbore primers.

[.338 hunter 14]

Only shoot the 50-54 caliber Thompson Center Endeavor!!!!!!!!!




p.s. Jim Shockeys my hero!!!!!!!!!!!! Go Gonzaga!!!!!!!!! And Luepold!!!!!!!!!!!!

[HoneyHole]

Only shoot the 50-54 caliber Thompson Center Endeavor!!!!!!!!!




p.s. Jim Shockeys my hero!!!!!!!!!!!! Go Gonzaga!!!!!!!!! And Luepold!!!!!!!!!!!!

You know, Shockey shot a Knight for years until TC offered him more money.........

[mcso55]

Knight 50 cal. Revolution.
100 grs. of triple 7 and a 240 gr hornady xtp

[bearhunter]

Tennessee Mountain Rifle, 50 cal., flintlock. 495 round ball with .010 patch. 120 gr. ffg black powder.

I use 75gr in my Lyman Deerstalker!I also shoot 495 roundballs. Even though it has a 1in48" twist, i can still shoot sabots pretty well. I'd rather shoot roundballs though.

[USMCowboy2621]

I use a H&R Handi Rifle with the Huntsman Muzzle loader barrel. I also carry a Cabelas
1858 Buffalo Brass Frame .44 Caliber Revolver. This year for Early doe I am gong to take this as my primary weapon for a challenge.

[Flintlock1776]

Remington 700ML
.50 Cal
Leupold Ultimate Slam 3x9x44mm scope
Super Sling 2+
.245 Grain sabots
100 gr. Pyrodex Pellets

[.300weatherby15]

I like the T.C.s. If somebody's making a choice buying a muzzle loader I wouldn't regret ever encouraging someone to buy one of these. They're truly an awesome piece of technology. Make sure your state allows the 209 ignition system though...

[DinkKiller]

I like the T.C.s. If somebody's making a choice buying a muzzle loader I wouldn't regret ever encouraging someone to buy one of these. They're truly an awesome piece of technology. Make sure your state allows the 209 ignition system though...

Good call. Which model do you have?

[.300weatherby15]

Oh... I have the .50 caliber, "Encore," with alot of nice attachments, no scope though. I prefer to old iron sight it, cause it seems more accurate and thrilling to me. In Idaho though they're strict with the 209 ignition system, so thats why I would recommend checking the regulations, cause it wouldn't be that fun if you bought $1200 worth of muzzle loader, but you gotta go out of state to use it hunting.

[Rider]

None, I don't see the appeal of using a muzzleloader. At least not yet. I'm happy using my standard deer file.

Is there a reason to use a muzzleloader other than having a longer hunting season?

[DinkKiller]

Oh... I have the .50 caliber, "Encore," with alot of nice attachments, no scope though. I prefer to old iron sight it, cause it seems more accurate and thrilling to me. In Idaho though they're strict with the 209 ignition system, so thats why I would recommend checking the regulations, cause it wouldn't be that fun if you bought $1200 worth of muzzle loader, but you gotta go out of state to use it hunting.


Wait a minute...............you're 15 and have a 300 Wthby and an Encore? I need your job......

[.300weatherby15]

LOL!!!! I earn everything I buy... trust me! Its a very long painful road working with my grandfather, and dad, in the summer. The exterior paint business isnt friendly to 15 year olds, neither is helping my dad with his side job as a contractor. It was a very heavy snow this year in North Idaho, and plenty of people wanted to pay us to shovel roofs, so that is one of my jobs... sound like fun? No, but working with my grandpa with tinting cocking isnt fun either. I get commented on my working personality all the time. All the working with my arms though helps me get back 65lbs on my bow though, LOL!!! So I wouldn't believe anybody who told me I was spoiled, "Never leave a boy to do a mans job." Famous words that prod me on from my grandfather when I get lazy, LOL!!!!

[NorCal]

As of last Wednesday March 11th, I am shooting a CVA Accura using 80 grains of Triple 7 ffg pushing 250 gr spire point Shockwave sabots. It also has the Cabela's Powderhorn scope on it. I am impressed with it all. After one more trip to the range I will post a few notes on it. Enjoy the journey!

[shane bragg]

t/c omega: 125 grains of loose triple seven: 250 grain shockwave, so far 2 shots 2 kills both were dowm and out

[Win73]

I shoot a NEF Huntsman .50 cal topped with a Rocky Mountain Optics fixed 4 power scope that I paid $15 for new. I shoot a 240 grain saboted hollow point over three 50 grain 777 pellets. This past season I dropped a fair sized buck in his tracks with it. The bullet entered his right shoulder and came to rest against the skin on his left shoulder. It expanded to almost twice its original diameter.

Not an expensive outfit but I hit what I shoot at with it.

[Flintlock1776]

Anyone total up the responses to get an unscientific survey of the results?

[tddeangelo]

LOL!!!! I earn everything I buy... trust me! Its a very long painful road working with my grandfather, and dad, in the summer. The exterior paint business isnt friendly to 15 year olds, neither is helping my dad with his side job as a contractor. It was a very heavy snow this year in North Idaho, and plenty of people wanted to pay us to shovel roofs, so that is one of my jobs... sound like fun? No, but working with my grandpa with tinting cocking isnt fun either. I get commented on my working personality all the time. All the working with my arms though helps me get back 65lbs on my bow though, LOL!!! So I wouldn't believe anybody who told me I was spoiled, "Never leave a boy to do a mans job." Famous words that prod me on from my grandfather when I get lazy, LOL!!!!

Sounds to me like you have it pretty good, really. You can work when you want, make decent money, and the work sounds about like what most kids your age SHOULD be doing.

My first job at 15 was digging holes for perc tests. Since farmers, even though they're selling their land, want to actually harvest the crops they plant, I got to dig 3-ft or 6-ft holes by hand with a post hole digger in standing corn fields. That's a good time right there.....good thing I don't have a pollen allergy, or I'd have been in histamine hades, so to speak. In college I worked for a landscaper.....he liked to take jobs like brush clearing or excavation....never planting shrubs or something civilized like that! AND...my one allergy got me in the brush clearing jobs....I'm deathly allergic to poison ivy, and I got it to the point of needing steroids to stop the reaction.

I think an exterior paint business or a contracting business is a good thing for you, plus you're probably learning how to do a lot of home maintenance that will save you truckloads of money later on in life. You really ought to be thanking your dad and grandfather for the valuable education you're getting, and then they pay you to boot!

=)

[Ruger 77/17]

I use a Thompson Center Omega .45 caliber with 100 grains of powder and use a knight red hot bullet and think it is a 175 grain.

[luie b]

I have a .45 caliber Kassnar kentucky rifle. It's got a really stiff trigger and I can only shoot at extended bow range(40 yards). It doesn't work the greatest sometimes and misfires but it is a 40 year old gun.

[Vitols0065]

i shoot a tc omega, 50 cal. stainless barrel with camo thumbhole stock, topped with a hawken scope. then i shoot 2 triple seven pellets, 50 grains each. and a tc super glide sabot

[D.Delozier]

I shoot an IAB imported by Sile of NY a replica 1863 .54 cal. Sharps carbine made in 1977 I load with a 425 grain ringtail sharps bullet with 75 grains of 2f black powder in a nitraited paper cartrigde with a musket cap to set it off.

[luie b]

Either a .54 Isaac Haines style custom flintlock or an Edward Marshall pattern custom flintlock in .58.

Both are rifled for PRB. Target and woods walk loads are 60 and 65 grains FFFg and hunting loads get into the 90 and 100 grain range with FFg

If I'm intending to kill a squirrel with my .45 cal kentucky rifle, how much powder should I load?

[dano23]

CVA Kodiak Magnum 50 caliber. I use 150 gr of 777 pellets, with a 300 Powderbelt bullet and I love it.

Just need to put a scope on it this season.

[bearhunter]

I use a Lyman Deer Stalker .50cal with a patched .495 roundball in front of 100gr. of Geox black powder.

[Robert C. Turpin]

I shoot the White .451 caliber. This is a great gun. Easy to load and with 460 grain projectiles deer and elk have been a regular item on the menu.

Silvertip

[backwoodshunter]

i have 2 ml

cva hawkins 50 cal. #11 caps 28 in barrel iron sights and 1 in 48 twist
maxi-hunter 350 grain and 100 grains of pyrodex

cva fire bolt mag 50 cal. 209 caps 28 in barrel bushnell scope(4-12x40) and 1 in 28 twist
hornady sst 250 grain and 3 pellets of pyrodex

i hunt with the hawkins most of the time.


brett

[Ruger 77/17]

I shoot a Thompson Center .45 cal Omega with a leupold VX III 1.75-6 scope

[skipper34]

TC Encore 209X50, TC Shockwave 250, 100 gr. Pyrodex pellets.

[7mm mag man]

i shoot a gonic .50 cal with 550 gr bullets and 90 grains of pyrodex

[TommyT]

I shoot a 50 cal with the dead center sabots and real powder in our state you cant use 209 or anything that helps keep the weather out no scope either
It keeps the not real hunters from trying what we take pride in

[greenshovel]

I shoot a 50 cal with the dead center sabots and real powder in our state you cant use 209 or anything that helps keep the weather out no scope either
It keeps the not real hunters from trying what we take pride in

This aught to stir the pot, Um Tommy incomplete sentence buddy........"trying what we.... trying too what?

Way to start of your first post, oh and welcome aboard..

[TommyT]

What I was trying to say was, that if you use piro pellets and a scope dosent defeat the purpose of muzzlling. Its just my opinion sorry that my spelling, and grammer are not to par.

[biliff]

What I was trying to say was, that if you use piro pellets and a scope dosent defeat the purpose of muzzlling. Its just my opinion sorry that my spelling, and grammer are not to par.

And yet you use sabots. No contradiction there.

[Killbuck04]

I have a TC Encore with the Pro Hunter 28" barrel with the Nikon Omega scope with the BDC redical. I use three Pyrodex pellets (50gr.) .250gr. Superglide Shockwave Sabot, and Winchester .209 primer. First gun I ever bought. Bought it last year when I was 14. My three shot gruops are under 1.5in. at 100yds. Make sure you run a wet patch and dry patch between each shot to maintain consistent accuaracy. Also I use that TC Bore Butter and that stuff really works. I can load the sabot with just two fingers.

GOOD LUCK!

Killbuck04

[bhippler]

tc omega 2 pellets 777 mag. 200 gr. tc spire sabot and 6320 nikon bdc.300 yrds. 5 inch group.

[luie b]

I shoot a traditions .50 cal kentucky rifle in percussion. I shoot I am going to shoot a .490 ball with a .015 patch and pyrodex. I can't wait to shoot it this weekend.

[rowdycwby1]

.385grn great plains bullit with 90grn powder charge in my T/C hawkins and my new Traditions derr hunter great grouping so far.

[AKC]

This aught to stir the pot, Um Tommy incomplete sentence buddy........"trying what we.... trying too what?

Way to start of your first post, oh and welcome aboard..


Maybe I'm missing the sarcasm or intentional irony of this reply with no fewer than 5 spelling and punctuation errors criticizing another poster's grammar. I am new here too.

Back on topic, I support the use of modern inline muzzle loaders and scopes if that's what sportsman want to use and I think states ought to allow that choice. It's simply a more efficient, ethical way to harvest game. I use TC Omega with fiber optic sights until I can cobble together enough for a decent quality scope. I shoot the T/C XTP Sabots and 90 gr loose 777 FFFg, which is plenty for 100 yards and in.

[tim58]

traditions Buck hunter 50 cal; it was a complete buy and go hunt rifle came with everything but powder , i have hunted with black powder for many years old cap and ball rifles , so i took to the pelletts well drop em stuff it and shoot just like that , then accuracy went bad so i went to loose powder and still same sabot and bullett now she shoots 5-7 inches high , yet perfect 100 % left and right , my problem is a bad one my rear sight is at the lowest setting right now , even off the scale printed on the side of it ,, any more it will fall off the ramp base i dont want to lower the charge any as 70 gr 2 f aint much at all , i like to hunt with 90 to 100 but if 70 gr 2 ff works then ill be aiming high what should i do in this perdickament thanks

[luie b]

Maybe I'm missing the sarcasm or intentional irony of this reply with no fewer than 5 spelling and punctuation errors criticizing another poster's grammar. I am new here too.

Back on topic, I support the use of modern inline muzzle loaders and scopes if that's what sportsman want to use and I think states ought to allow that choice. It's simply a more efficient, ethical way to harvest game. I use TC Omega with fiber optic sights until I can cobble together enough for a decent quality scope. I shoot the T/C XTP Sabots and 90 gr loose 777 FFFg, which is plenty for 100 yards and in.

I agree that states should allow the use of modern inlines but I believe states should also allow another season just for primitive arms(percussion and flintlocks). I think that would make things more fair.

[adirondackbushwhack]

TC White Mountain Carbine, 490 patched round ball, black powder.

TC Triumph, Leupold VX3 1.5-5 scope, TC xtp 240 grain sabots, black horn 209 powder


The carbine is a fair weather rifle and the triumph is for reality. Used to use the Carbine only but can't get an acra shot for rainy/snowy days anymore. The carbine with a 490 round ball and 90 grains of powder shoots real nice and has great knock down power I've taken plenty of buck with it.