weight forward

[iduckhunt]

I was wondering if any of you were using weight forward arrows and if so what are your thoughts regarding their flight and performance. While I have more than enough arrows, my son is moving up in draw length and weight. Thought that if we were buying him new arrows we might try something new and improved if it is in fact improved. Right now he shoots through a biscuit but he may move to a drop rest.

Thanks
Bob

[lovestohunt]

That is a good question. I would really like to try the Carbon Express Maxima hunter arrows. They are fletched with blazers, are 8.9 gpi on the 350's and have a straightness factor of .0025. I have heard great things about these arrows except for their price. At 140.00 a dozen, they are awfully pricey. Those would be the ones that I would try if I was in the market.

[legotp456]

I jsut bough a hald dozen of those exact carbon express maxima hunter arrows for my new Trykon XL that should be arriving wedneday so i will be abl ot see how they shot and will post then but all i have heard is that they are nice and on another note they are probably the nicest/coolest looking arrow i have ever seen with the black and while blazers they are nice.

Tony

[Blood Trail]

I think its a gimmick. I'm sure they improve performance, but not enuff for me to drop $150 bills for em. My $50 Calbelas cheapies work just fine.

[vizslas]

My buddy used them arrows and he swears by um. But I agree with what was said above me, I think it is a gimmick. And plus, they kind of look funny. They have three quarter camo and then the top fourth is black, almost asking where is the rest of the camo. I don't know, I have been shooting the Beman Black Max Elites and they work just fine. I understand what they are trying to market, but I think its just a ploy. Regular carbons work just fine but this is only my personal opinion. You won't see me running out to get some anytime soon.

[Arnie Oakley]

With insert, field point and/or broadhead, I've yet to see a tail heavy arrow.

[legotp456]

Good point but really when i bought my hald dozen at cabelas for $70 they where no where close to the most expensive arrows compared to some of the easton axis's and upper end beemans and seeing as all i need them for is hunting and final tuning before the season i see no reason to buy a dozen of them as even if you did use them for target shooting 6 arrows is really all you need anyway.

Tony

[lovestohunt]

Good point but really when i bought my hald dozen at cabelas for $70 they where no where close to the most expensive arrows compared to some of the easton axis's and upper end beemans and seeing as all i need them for is hunting and final tuning before the season i see no reason to buy a dozen of them as even if you did use them for target shooting 6 arrows is really all you need anyway.

Tony


As far as I know, those maxima hunters are the most expensive on the block. I haven't seen anything else for 140 a dozen. Tony, those easton axis arrows are priced for a dozen, not 6. 12 Maxima hunter arrows are 139.99 for 12.

[legotp456]

OK well i guess they might be expensive but reallt who cares i mean it isnt loike ammo that you will only get one shot from and i would rather pay for the best then buy cheap arrows and regret it later. Also i have always looked at it this way, i would rather apy alot of money ounce than have to pay a littel bit of money a bucnh of times because what i bought breaks or wears out so I personally dont mind spending the money on the arrows sicne i know they will preform and it is ne less thing i willl have to worry about. IDK i just like to feel like i bought something that is the best so that i dont feel like a cheaped out especailly on something as critical as arrows and broadheads as i dont care how nice of a bow you have if you buy crap arrows/heads it doesnt matter. Now dont get me worng i dont mean to say that $100 a dozen arrows are crap but i just like to buy higher end stuff so i know it will perform in the field and on the range.

Tony

[lovestohunt]

OK well i guess they might be expensive but reallt who cares i mean it isnt loike ammo that you will only get one shot from and i would rather pay for the best then buy cheap arrows and regret it later. Also i have always looked at it this way, i would rather apy alot of money ounce than have to pay a littel bit of money a bucnh of times because what i bought breaks or wears out so I personally dont mind spending the money on the arrows sicne i know they will preform and it is ne less thing i willl have to worry about. IDK i just like to feel like i bought something that is the best so that i dont feel like a cheaped out especailly on something as critical as arrows and broadheads as i dont care how nice of a bow you have if you buy crap arrows/heads it doesnt matter. Now dont get me worng i dont mean to say that $100 a dozen arrows are crap but i just like to buy higher end stuff so i know it will perform in the field and on the range.

Tony


I know what you mean about buying later. I've replaced my bow, binoculars, some hunting clothing, a ruger 10/22, a remington 710, and a rimfire scope all because I didn't research my purchase prior. My BIL is notoriously known for buying cheap and then replacing a short time later. I don't necessarily buy the best, but I don't buy bottom of the barrel either.

[legotp456]

lol i almost made the infamous 710 mistake too but luckily for me i looked at some online reviews and saved myself although i will admit that the new remington 770 i think it is looks alot nicer than the 710 that it is replacing and if i were buying for a kid that was new i would look into it. And yea scopes are another thing i have gotten screwed with like the $40 bushnell i bought and soon regreted as it was about as good as open sights with glass in front of them so my next scope i bought a lower level nikon and am MUCH happier with it.

Tony

[iduckhunt]

thanks for the feedback
bob

[cobo]

I am shooting the cx350 maxima hunters for the second year now and am very pleased with them. The weight and straightness tolerances are very good. They group better than my cx300's.

[BuBBaG]

I've used the carbon express CX300's and they work fine. I have tried to use cheap arrows and you can see them flex leaving the bow. I do wonder if the Easton and Redhead Max arrows are the same as carbon express? They are some what cheaper. They look the same.
I have not used easy crest.
Will if come off with the fletching if needed or will it trash the arrow?

[Arnie Oakley]

I've used the carbon express CX300's and they work fine. I have tried to use cheap arrows and you can see them flex leaving the bow. I do wonder if the Easton and Redhead Max arrows are the same as carbon express? They are some what cheaper. They look the same.
I have not used easy crest.
Will if come off with the fletching if needed or will it trash the arrow?
I've fletched my last 18 arrows with Easy Crest, and I'll never fletch another arrow without them. They are a little pricey, but not having to remove old glue from a carbon shaft is well worth the added expense.

[airborne]

I can't see my arrows on their way to the target yet alone see if they flex. One would have to ask.. is buying arrows like buying fishing lures. What I mean by that is... over the years I have seen lures that looked like they would catch anything and they didn't. I also see all kinds of arrows out there and think, man those look great, but are they all worth the cost. Think about this... If you are hitting your bullseye out to thirty yards and you get pass throughs with the old trusty Gold Tips, do you really need arrows that cost that much? I have shot the same arrows for years. I inspect them regularly and guess what, they only cost $5 each. Things that make you say HMMMMMM

Don't get me wrong, these new arrows may be a lot better and people buy what they can afford. Nothing wrong with that.

I still get a kick out of fellow duck hunters. We all shoot and shoot. By the end of the day we end up with dead ducks. The point is, some of us did it with our old Ithica and some did it with a new $1500 shotgun.

The beer still tastes great at the end of the day and we all had fun. The duck is great too.

[BuBBaG]

I've fletched my last 18 arrows with Easy Crest, and I'll never fletch another arrow without them. They are a little pricey, but not having to remove old glue from a carbon shaft is well worth the added expense.


Thanks for the advise. I bought the high dollar arrows and was not pleased with the glue job. I'll try the easy crest on the first one I re-fletch.

[BuBBaG]

I did it.
I bought a dozen at $119.00. I can see a difference. I can feel the strength in the carbon weave.
I asked around and all of the local archery shops say that the arrows are not from the same company. I did find out that they are all made in Korea. Having been to Korea and see Nike and Rebook come from the same factory I'd venture to guess this is the same situation. Someone will have to spend the money to shoot them side by side. Not me I got enough money in the pot for now. These arrows will last me for a few years.
A side note;
I have 20/12 right and 20/15 left vision. I practice follow through on every shot, calling my shots. I learned that shooting high power rifle competition. 1000 yd shot with open sights requires calling your shot. It will improve anyone’s archery if you care to try. You do not have to have perfect eye sight. Just remember the location of the pin at release. Drawing that picture after the shot on scratch paper will help. When I am on top of my archery and not working on gun stuff I can shoot the knocks off my buddy’s arrows on a regular basis from 20 yds. It's all practice.
If you can’t see the arrow well enough to see it flex have someone watch for you or let them shoot your set while you watch. If you are only shooting to 30 yds it will not matter. If you practice as we do from 40 yds, everything to make the arrow fly straight comes into play.

[Arnie Oakley]

I'm a little in the dark here. As I posted earlier, I've never seen a tail heavy arrow. What exactly is the advantage of these shafts?

[Blood Trail]

I'm a little in the dark here. As I posted earlier, I've never seen a tail heavy arrow. What exactly is the advantage of these shafts?


The advantage??? You empty pocket is gas money in their Bentleys. I sure you can tell the difference, but like I said, not enuff for me to drop that much cheese for'em. After all, a deer, hog, elk, etc can't tell the differance when placed thru the pumper....

[tjen]

Weight forward arrows are not new the first were tapered cedar shafting Custum King Archery still makes them. I have shot them and some graphite tapered arrows in my recurves and they do work great, but I am not sure if their still made. Shooting off the self of a recuvre or longbow they do help out. But for compondbows with mechanical rest tapered shafts most likely are not needed. How ever keeping the balance point of your arrow more forward will help by using say 125 gr head insted of 100gr heads etc... It helps with steadying the arrow flight and with penitration.

[BuBBaG]

I'm a little in the dark here. As I posted earlier, I've never seen a tail heavy arrow. What exactly is the advantage of these shafts?
I don't think the weight forward helps but the carbon weave is stronger.

[tjen]

I'm a little in the dark here. As I posted earlier, I've never seen a tail heavy arrow. What exactly is the advantage of these shafts?

All arrows are have more weight at the tip. The balance point is foward of ceneter but you can move tha balance point more forward to help arrow flight and when hitting the target if the weight is more to the tip the nock end won't want to come around as much resaulting in more momentum transmitted throught the tip and not as much throught the side of the shaft. (shaft slap) There are two ways to move the weight more forward either build the arrow with more weight on the forward part of the shaft or add weight to the tip components.

I have had great performance with Beaman #340's with the weight tubes installed. The tube also helps dampen vibrations and make them very quite. I shoot them with a combined arrow weight of 515 grs from a 65# Hoyt Aspen