Winchester 70 Super Shadow in 223 WSSM

[mokan57]

Hey guys; give me an opinion. Has anyone shot/own a Super Shadow in a 223 WSSM. Have a 7mm WSM; would'nt trade it for the world; just want to round out my field of fire. Also so have a Savage 93R17-FSS for 200 yds. and under critters; love it. Need something in mid range with less kick then the 7; and more power then the 17 for 200 to 500 yd. shots.[ Live in the country with lots of open ground ]:D Lots of cotoes; BIG black birds; and others to pop caps on; so am looking for a long range shooter for the $$$$
Tkanks;
Claude

[Todd G.]

The 223 WSSM is a cool little round. It will perform with the .22-250 and the .220 Swift. And, the Winchester Super Shadow is a good rifle. I honestly think it would be a nice combination. However, using a .224 caliber bullet out to 500 yards may be a little dicey if you have any wind. A truer 300-500 yard rifle would be a 6mm or 6.5 mm rather than a 5.56mm.

However, if most of your shots are 250 to 400, the 223 WSSM will be great!

BTW -- I always thought the best little coyote round in Winchester's Short Mags would be the .257 WSSM. It brings enough smack and great range. But, that's simply my preference. Would make a nice antelope rifle also....

[turbo]

Looking at buying a .223 wssm for my son and i to coyote hunt with reading lots about barrells burning out . Would this happen if i only use factory ammo or is it happening with just hand loads that are to hot .
Any info would be great .

[reloadmike78]

Looking at buying a .223 wssm for my son and i to coyote hunt with reading lots about barrells burning out . Would this happen if i only use factory ammo or is it happening with just hand loads that are to hot .
Any info would be great .

I think mine burnt out after about 4 boxes of shells. Took that sucker down to the gun store and traded it off for a 22-250. I could not be happier with my purchase, not only is it a shooter, the ease of fiding ammo and bullet selection is far greater in factory ammo. After only 4 boxes I was shooting about a 9in MOA. I am shooting less than 3/4 now with my 250. I think the .223 wssm is going to die and die hard.

Just my .02

[Mark]

The Hornady handbook mentions "significant throat erosion after 350 rounds." They add "This cartridge is hard on barrels." It is regarded as a barrel burner.

I've heard a rumor that the WSSM rifles are being discontinued. I don't know if that is true. I do see rifles being offered at low prices, so maybe this is true. Retailers are unloading old stock.
I do see the issue of the action length and bolt face diameter. I don't know of another cartridge that will fit these actions. I don't know what a fellow would do with one of these, except enjoy it while it lasts.
Mark

[all_about _the_chase]

I would look at a 22-250.

I have a super shadow in 223wssm. I am having it rebarreled as it is defintely shot out. The barrel life isn't great, and I am pretty sure they have discontinued it as I looked on the winchester and browning web sites and didn't find anything. Also factory loaded ammunition was difficult to find. If you use factory ammunition I would look into a 22-250, there has been more time spent on developing the factory loads. There is a wide range of good factory loads available and you will be able to find a load that delivers the accuracy needed to connect with poodles way out there.