ford or chevy

[#10]

alll igh havent this fords or chevys fords r the best hands down chevys r yeah u no wat i mean.

[outdoorsman91]

Really gonna set up some sparks into a raging forest fire with this thread lol....I dont really hate any trucks except for the new Toyota Tundras. If it gets me from point A to Z and runs great and looks decent I'm pretty happy with a truck. Mines nothing to look at but its a great hunting truck and has never once gotten stuck and I've taken it through some good mud.

[270shooter]

FORD BABY!!! I'm still rockin' a 1992 F-150 XLT!!! lol

[henpecked]

spell check please

[Texashome]

Chevy my man.

You know what they say about Fords

Found on Road Dead
Fix or Repair Daily


FORD Backwards

Driver
Returns
On
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[buckgitter]

neither...

Dodge or Toyota!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[#10]

fords r the best

[Ruger 77/17]

Well I would say either one because at least it is American made cars and keeps work is the US and not to foreign countries

[dubyam]

Just for the record:

First
On
Race
Day

or

First
Off-
Road,
Dummy

And now, with GM and Chrysler both taking handouts, I'm more 'blue-oval' blooded than ever! If I could go buy a new truck right now, I would, just to support Fords efforts against the now far too well connected GM. Can anyone say anti-competitive? Once again, liberalism rewards failure and punsishes those who try to make it on their own. Oh, and after however many BILLION dollars of taxpayer money, both GM & Chrysler go into bankruptcy anyway - why didn't we just save our money and let them do it last fall? Government intervention always creates this kind of stupidity and waste!

[mstarbird2000]

Just for the record:

First
On
Race
Day

or

First
Off-
Road,
Dummy

And now, with GM and Chrysler both taking handouts, I'm more 'blue-oval' blooded than ever! If I could go buy a new truck right now, I would, just to support Fords efforts against the now far too well connected GM. Can anyone say anti-competitive? Once again, liberalism rewards failure and punsishes those who try to make it on their own. Oh, and after however many BILLION dollars of taxpayer money, both GM & Chrysler go into bankruptcy anyway - why didn't we just save our money and let them do it last fall? Government intervention always creates this kind of stupidity and waste!

Amen Brother!!!!

[Rider]

I buy whatever suits my needs at the time. I don't have a brand preference other than I will never own a Chrysler product again, but I'll buy both Ford and Chevy.

[backwoodshunter]

i think ford and chevy are the best. but only the old ones(85 and older) . this new stuff there coming out with is junk. you cant afford them , you cant work on them, and the body styles are ugly. thats just me.

brett



also

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every no one said anything about chevy yet lol
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[3 1/2" magnum]

Just for the record:

First
On
Race
Day

or

First
Off-
Road,
Dummy

And now, with GM and Chrysler both taking handouts, I'm more 'blue-oval' blooded than ever! If I could go buy a new truck right now, I would, just to support Fords efforts against the now far too well connected GM. Can anyone say anti-competitive? Once again, liberalism rewards failure and punsishes those who try to make it on their own. Oh, and after however many BILLION dollars of taxpayer money, both GM & Chrysler go into bankruptcy anyway - why didn't we just save our money and let them do it last fall? Government intervention always creates this kind of stupidity and waste!

you forgot one

Forever
Out
Running
Dodge

[RobertJF]

Jeep Commander.

[Todd G.]

In this day and age, you're pretty naive if you actually buy based on brand preference rather than need/cost. Ford, Chevy, Dodge, it doesn't matter. They are all good vehicles with their own set of strengths and weaknesses. I'd say the same for Toyota and Nissan.

Trying to start a debate about it is pretty childish.

BTW, I've owned some 1985 and older trucks. I'd take a new 2009 any day! Using 1985 dollars versus today, they aren't any more expensive today. As you age, you will eventually start to look at what is available and not be so defensive about what you own. When a person asks for an opinion about vehicles and dogs, most everyone's recommendations are about what THEY own, not what is best. I think eveyone wants to validate themselves or something.

[Vitols0065]

i like all the new trucks and have driven them all. each have their pros and cons. i personally have a 2006 chevy silverado 1500 which is a great truck

[backwoodshunter]

In this day and age, you're pretty naive if you actually buy based on brand preference rather than need/cost. Ford, Chevy, Dodge, it doesn't matter. They are all good vehicles with their own set of strengths and weaknesses. I'd say the same for Toyota and Nissan.

Trying to start a debate about it is pretty childish.

BTW, I've owned some 1985 and older trucks. I'd take a new 2009 any day! Using 1985 dollars versus today, they aren't any more expensive today. As you age, you will eventually start to look at what is available and not be so defensive about what you own. When a person asks for an opinion about vehicles and dogs, most everyone's recommendations are about what THEY own, not what is best. I think eveyone wants to validate themselves or something.

i dont mean to ofend u todd or anyone for that matter, but i dont know where you get that the new trucks arent any more exspensive then the old trucks are. they are way more exspensive than the old ones. ill give u a good example. a friend of mine has a 2001 f-350 4x4 (new truck). and i have a 1969 chevy 3/4 ton 4x4 (old truck). he paid $17,000 for his and i paid $5,000 for mine. i bought mine about 4 months before he got his. a month after he got it he had to replace the transmission in it. cost him $3,000. i havent had to do anything to my truck. but if i had to replace my tans it would be about $800 bucks. thats alot of money diffrence to me anyway. im just making a point that the old trucks are cheaper and just as reliable as the new ones. and i use mine as a daily driver.


brett

[dubyam]

I'll disagree a bit, Todd, with your assertion that all trucks are pretty much equal and it should be price that determines choice. I've owned Ford, Chevy, and Dodge, and for that matter, have owned multiple vehicles over my lifetime from each of these manufacturers. I had a long stretch of my life where I was in a new company vehicle every 14-16mo due to mileage driven, so I had a chance to see how each brand held up over a lot of highway mileage and a good bit of around town driving, too. Dodge makes a good basic automobile, but literally every one I've had has needed a multi-thousand dollar repair sometime between 40-60k miles. I'm talking a tranny rebuild, or a rearend replacement, or a crank bearing going bad. My sample includes Ram trucks, Grand Caravans, and a mid-size sedan that I can't remember the model name of. From Chevy, I've had a number of small items create problems on every one I've ever driven. Nothing catastrophic, but stuff that was a nuisance on a day to day basis, like a radio knob coming off, or a power window that stuck, or a mirror that wouldn't stay adjusted, and the like. Tried fixing a few of these under warranty, didn't really help. Problems recurred on a couple of items (mirror, window, liftgate that was difficult to stay latched). My Fords have had a few issues, but in each case they were resolved. It has been stuff like a trim panel that lost its color within 5k miles (replaced with one that didn't), an electric seat that stopped adjusting around 25k miles (fixed without recurrence), and a fuel mileage problem that actually set in motion a service rider on that model of truck regarding a miscalibrated sensor causing the truck to run excessively rich at about 18k miles (but was fixed on the second inspection and written up for Ford by the service department at my local dealer and started the process of this being noticed in a specific run of these trucks). None of them have been expensive issues except the heads on my 6.0 F250, but that was a real pain. Thank heavens for the 100k motor warranty on that one. Outside of that truck, every vehicle I've driven from Ford over the past twenty years has been markedly better in quality than the vehicles I've driven from Chrysler and GM. My brother has a Chevy Colorado that is a good truck, but it's got a lot of little things wrong with it. I'm still driving a Ram 1500 Quad Cab Hemi that runs great, but is on rearend number 2 and has some ongoing electrical issues. All of the vehicles I've mentioned were either purchased or leased new, so I know the whole history. I'm sure there are people who have had experiences opposite mine, but I'm sticking with Ford from here on out. I hope my situation improves over the next couple of years and I can keep this Dodge running long enough to get out of it without feeling like I wrote a check when I bought it, and wrote another one when I sold it.

[JimT]

In this day and age, you're pretty naive if you actually buy based on brand preference rather than need/cost. Ford, Chevy, Dodge, it doesn't matter. They are all good vehicles with their own set of strengths and weaknesses. I'd say the same for Toyota and Nissan.

Trying to start a debate about it is pretty childish.

BTW, I've owned some 1985 and older trucks. I'd take a new 2009 any day! Using 1985 dollars versus today, they aren't any more expensive today. As you age, you will eventually start to look at what is available and not be so defensive about what you own. When a person asks for an opinion about vehicles and dogs, most everyone's recommendations are about what THEY own, not what is best. I think eveyone wants to validate themselves or something.

X2. I am pretty sure he means new vehicle price. A 10k truck back in 85 is a 17-18k truck now. My next truck will be a Toyota. They really seem to have it togather better than anyone. Ya ya..I should buy American. Americans build the Toyota, and some of the profits go to Japan. How much profit goes to Canada or Mexico with Chevy. Alot!

[dubyam]

You go ahead and buy that Toyota - it will keep good people in Huntsville, AL hard at work building the motors for those trucks. Don't be fooled by the whole "buy American" stuff anymore - Honda, Nissan, Toyota, Vokswagon, BMW, Mercedes, Hyundai, and Mazda all have production here stateside. Interestingly, most of it is very profitable, for both the company and the employees.

[JimT]

You go ahead and buy that Toyota - it will keep good people in Huntsville, AL hard at work building the motors for those trucks. Don't be fooled by the whole "buy American" stuff anymore - Honda, Nissan, Toyota, Vokswagon, BMW, Mercedes, Hyundai, and Mazda all have production here stateside. Interestingly, most of it is very profitable, for both the company and the employees.


Thats the plan. Need to get another 3-4 years out of my Ford. Kinda setting myself up for a new snowmobile and truck at the same time. Will need them both around then. haha.

[jfinch]

I think it would be interesting to know how the US employment numbers of the "foreign" auto makers stack up against the big 3. Especially considering that none of them appear to be in the financial trouble that the American automakers are.

For the record I currently drive a 1998 Mercedes ML320 I bought used. This was the first "foreign" car I have owned and driven daily. I will say this, it is light years ahead of the Chevy's I grew up working on. I do almost all my own maintenance and repairs. It has been a very tough and dependable ride. I have 156K on it and so far only minor things. By this time with the Chevrolet vehicles I have had I would be on my second or third Trany.

[sailinghudson25]

The cars and trucks I like at 30-40yrs old and have their own share of headaches.

My daily driver is a 2003 ZR2 Blazer. It is mildly modified with a lift kit, locker for the rear diff, and some suspension modifications too. I beat the truck on trails alot. If you aspire to do any offroading, buy a solid axle truck. I think all that's left in the f250/350. Chevy hasn't had one for about 15 years. I think dodge has IFS for about 3-4 years, could be wrong.

IFS is not up to par with offroading or lift kits. I have 120k on mine, the radiator pluged up with sludge because of a bad coolant choice by GM. One fuel injector plugged up and needed replacement. The transmission was going into convertor lockup real so, so I repaired a bad mechanical valve inside the valvebody. I have put roughly 10-12 suspension parts on the truck, mainly from offroading and the lift kit abuse. I am not bothered by this because I do my own repairs. This thing would of been long gone If I didn't work on cars. I also need a transmission in 5-10k miles. The planety gearset is making some noise. I am planning on putting a dana 44 solid front axle in it this winter.

[Todd G.]

i dont mean to ofend u todd or anyone for that matter, but i dont know where you get that the new trucks arent any more exspensive then the old trucks are. they are way more exspensive than the old ones. ill give u a good example. a friend of mine has a 2001 f-350 4x4 (new truck). and i have a 1969 chevy 3/4 ton 4x4 (old truck). he paid $17,000 for his and i paid $5,000 for mine. i bought mine about 4 months before he got his. a month after he got it he had to replace the transmission in it. cost him $3,000. i havent had to do anything to my truck. but if i had to replace my tans it would be about $800 bucks. thats alot of money diffrence to me anyway. im just making a point that the old trucks are cheaper and just as reliable as the new ones. and i use mine as a daily driver.


brett

First off, I'm not trying to imply that a 1968 wouldn't be cheaper today than a 2009. What I said was when you take a vehicle in 1985 that cost $15k and figure what that money is equivalent to today, a 2009 truck cost about the same. And, quite frankly, the brakes, fuel economy, and suspension are so far superior that its almost ridiculous to compare the two.

BTW - I own a 1968 Chevy that I purchased when I got out of school. Number one, it rides like crap, gets about 10 mpg, has burned oil since it had about 50k miles on it, and the engine had to be rebuilt at 100k. My 2006 chevy has 130k on it and I have only had to change the oil and tires.

[Todd G.]

I'll disagree a bit, Todd, with your assertion that all trucks are pretty much equal and it should be price that determines choice. I've owned Ford, Chevy, and Dodge, and for that matter, have owned multiple vehicles over my lifetime from each of these manufacturers. I had a long stretch of my life where I was in a new company vehicle every 14-16mo due to mileage driven, so I had a chance to see how each brand held up over a lot of highway mileage and a good bit of around town driving, too. Dodge makes a good basic automobile, but literally every one I've had has needed a multi-thousand dollar repair sometime between 40-60k miles. I'm talking a tranny rebuild, or a rearend replacement, or a crank bearing going bad. My sample includes Ram trucks, Grand Caravans, and a mid-size sedan that I can't remember the model name of. From Chevy, I've had a number of small items create problems on every one I've ever driven. Nothing catastrophic, but stuff that was a nuisance on a day to day basis, like a radio knob coming off, or a power window that stuck, or a mirror that wouldn't stay adjusted, and the like. Tried fixing a few of these under warranty, didn't really help. Problems recurred on a couple of items (mirror, window, liftgate that was difficult to stay latched). My Fords have had a few issues, but in each case they were resolved. It has been stuff like a trim panel that lost its color within 5k miles (replaced with one that didn't), an electric seat that stopped adjusting around 25k miles (fixed without recurrence), and a fuel mileage problem that actually set in motion a service rider on that model of truck regarding a miscalibrated sensor causing the truck to run excessively rich at about 18k miles (but was fixed on the second inspection and written up for Ford by the service department at my local dealer and started the process of this being noticed in a specific run of these trucks). None of them have been expensive issues except the heads on my 6.0 F250, but that was a real pain. Thank heavens for the 100k motor warranty on that one. Outside of that truck, every vehicle I've driven from Ford over the past twenty years has been markedly better in quality than the vehicles I've driven from Chrysler and GM. My brother has a Chevy Colorado that is a good truck, but it's got a lot of little things wrong with it. I'm still driving a Ram 1500 Quad Cab Hemi that runs great, but is on rearend number 2 and has some ongoing electrical issues. All of the vehicles I've mentioned were either purchased or leased new, so I know the whole history. I'm sure there are people who have had experiences opposite mine, but I'm sticking with Ford from here on out. I hope my situation improves over the next couple of years and I can keep this Dodge running long enough to get out of it without feeling like I wrote a check when I bought it, and wrote another one when I sold it.


And interestingly enough, I can counter you on each brand and the history I have experienced.

Let me start by saying we run a fleet of pickups that is in excess of 200 vehicles. We own GM's, Mopars, and Fords. The actual cost of each vehicle is monitored over its actual life during our ownership. When its all added up, they cost the same.

Due to certain options and packages that are available from each company, some of our vehicles tend to be Dodges to fill certain needs. The same is true for Chevy and Ford. When it comes to an extreme heavy duty pickup, we lean towards Fords because of the suspension packages that are available. When it comes to heavy/long pulls, we lean towards GM with the Duramax/Allison combination. Dodges work good in the mid-range and Chevys pretty much control the 1/2 ton high mileage areas.

What I am saying is that rather than concentrating on brand, you will be far better off looking at the options that are available from each company and the costs associated with them. Buying a ford just to buy a ford is pretty ridiculous.

I would be more comfortable having the question asked as to what options should I have to meet my objectives rather than asking if I should buy a Dodge or a Ford.

[H2O Dog]

I have to agree with dubyam. Buy the vehicle you like and can afford, but don’t be fooled by the nameplate on the side of the vehicle. I used to live in Ohio where the UAW flooded the airways with their “buy American” campaigns. Problem is my wife’s 2008 Subaru Outback was made in Indiana and so was her 2003 Outback. My 1999 Dodge Ram, 2003 Ford F-250, and my 2007 Dodge Ram were all made in Mexico. Which companies vehicles do you think directly supported the American worker?

H2O Dog

[dubyam]

I apparently missed Todd's reply to my original post. While I don't run a fleet of 200 vehicles at any one time, I've been the sole driver of the vehicles I am quoting experience with, and I know how I am in terms of driving style, use, abuse, and upkeep. I won't ever, ever own another Chrysler product. I'll walk first. They are the most prone to major breakage between 40-60k of any of the big three American makes. My experience with Fords (especially trucks) has included at least 11 trucks, and all have served very well without major expense during the first 125-150k miles, with the exception of my 2006 F250 with the crappy 6.0L diesel with the disposable head gaskets and bolts. But that got fixed under warranty at least. I hope my next vehicle is one of the new 250's with the next gen motor. It's holding up much better from what I can tell.

Anyway, what I'm trying to say with all this rambling is that my experience, which is significant in number of vehicles and mileage, shows Fords to be markedly better made trucks than the Dodges, and better by enough than the GM's to keep me buying the blue oval until I find them to lose quality.

[H2O Dog]

Ford, Chevy, Dodge, and Toyota all produce a quality product. My brother loves Chevy trucks and that’s all he’ll buy. He’s had a few bad ones, but that hasn’t caused him to change. I can say the same about another buddy who loves the big blue oval. Presently, I’m happy with the last two Dodge trucks I’ve purchased. There is no right or wrong answer here…buy what works for you!

H2O Dog

[#10]

go fords lol

[Richracer1]

alll igh havent this fords or chevys fords r the best hands down chevys r yeah u no wat i mean SUCK

I'm still trying to decipher your post. How about trying proper English and leave the text jibberish to cell phones.

[DinkKiller]

Seeing you're only 12 years old, I seriously doubt you'd really know the difference between either.


I've owned and driven both. Right now, I own an 05 GMC Sierra CrewCab, Traded in an 01 Superduty with 18,000 miles on it. If I was going to do it all over again, I'd go with the Chevy / GMC.

[wasgas]

Well I would say either one because at least it is American made cars and keeps work is the US and not to foreign countries

My Dodge 2500 is assembled in Mexico.

My Ford Excursion is made in the USA of parts all from Mexico.

My Toyota Camary seems to be made in Kentucky of American parts.

My Harley is proudly made in the USA, but when working on it last week the entire dash panel was stamped made in Japan.

This crap has to stop, I challenge any of you to walk into a Wal-Mart and try to buy three non food items that are made in the USA, I doubt you can do it.

PS my favorite is the Dodge, seems to be the best quality.